If the courts give them permission to do this, we're all doomed. Say goodbye to privacy, I'd say this is a bit extreme to say the least.

Absolutely, though I would hope that there's no way in hell the courts would allow this.

I think Sony is finally loosing it.... they really are.... is this EVER going to end?

It makes a whole lot of sense to make this request from the people tied to the class action suit. I'm sure whoever is representing the group must have assumed this request would be made eventually.

It's like a medical class action suit asking for doctor's records so people not affected don't piggyback on the potential favorable ruling. I have no problem with this.

i think the whole scea vs. scei is very interesting in this article (and even more-so in the source). it seems obvious to me that they are playing both sides of the fence. hopefully a judge will notice this and say they need to stick with one or the other as the situation is a major factor in multiple lawsuits.

Ehh, how much do class action lawsuits like this actually give to people though? Most payout like $3 a person and don't even bother asking for proof. Technically any PS3 owner could have been impacted, as they could have wanted to install otherOS and never gotten around to it, but purchased it when that feature was still advertised.

Yeah, anytime I have ever received a check for any class action rulings it has been only a few dollars. But that's really not the point. The point is that the judge will see Sony asking to do proper due diligence for their defense and I'm sure he will allow it.

This shouldn't surprise anyone.

Well Anonymous are planning to DDoS them this very second.

They're not doing a great job

Haha I know, just checked and everything is fine.

Was down earlier today. I've no longer got any respect left for that group of kids, I liked some of their previous actions but can't agree with any of the crap they're pulling

EDIT: Dan, I like the black color choice for your gamercard

Thanks, I'm wondering why there is a random '0' on the left hand side, though.

TO's has it too. Must be an oversight.

If sony gets this passed then it just proves how fucked up our justice system and country are right now. its ok for sony to lie and commit crimes as long as they pay lawyers to manipulate words and the law in ways that benefit them and only them. this is really sad to see. what kind of example does the show to people? that if you are a big company (bully) you can pick on the weak (consumers) and get away with anything because hey we are sony. Sony expects everyone to contimue to think they are a good company with good morals and that they are a company we should buy stuff from and support yet the message they send out is fuck you we dont care about you just the money. They obviously feel they can lie cheat and steal and in the end its ok cause hey they are sony and they have billions of dollars to throw around to manipulate the law and justice system which is already fucked up. Think of this....if a black guy was driving around coked out and on meth and crashed their car and left they would go straight to jail no questions asked. shit we would probably try to have him put in jail for life right? well guess what lindsey lohan has done that and been caught fucking up many more times and lying etc yet she keeps getting chances. why? cuz she has money plain and simple. sony is using this same"celeb status and power" to buy favorability when they have obviously comiitted the same crimes they are accusing others of. I'm really sorry for all you that will think i'm just bitching.....i'm just stating the plain and simple facts. sorry for the long ass comment but i'm fed up with companies thinking they can do whatever they want like they were above the law

How is Sony lying and what crime have they committed?

Also no, the black guy wouldn't go to prison for life, nor would he probably even go to jail depending on his record.

Way i see it, this step is the logical one for SCE - I too, am struggling to see what crime they are commiting.

The crime of stealing otherOS.

The crime of defending your flagship gaming product.

Wow have you not been following all of this and reading all the legal documents? If u don't know the crimes committed by Sony u shouldn't be commenting on the subject. Did u not hear about LG sueing Sony or our military sueing Sony over other OS removal? Educate yourselves to what's going on in the world or go back to your hole

how would you like to be sold a house that was marketed as having a pool just to have the person who sold u the house come fill the pool with dirt/cement and tell u oh well fuck you I can do what I want. sound crazy? well Sony did that by removing other OS. they said it was for security issues now they changed their mind saying it was to save $. fucking liars changing their story....

Oh dear. Don't try to pull that crap, it doesn't work on anyone here.

I asked you a question, now put up or shut up. If you can't then you're the one, not me, who doesn't know what they're talking about. Burden of proof falls on the one making the claim, and in this case that's you. The 'legal documents' are also tens of pages long and there are multiple, filled with legalese which is kind of a given. I very much doubt you read them especially considering you don't even have the patience to type 'you' properly instead of 'u.'

As for them removing OtherOS, I'd consider that a stupid response to an issue. It's certainly not a crime. I also find it funny about how you think the existence of a suit proves a crime as been committed. Companies sue each other all the time.

Having bought a house before, you would just contact your attorney and the sellers would be responsible for the fees associated with fixing the pool. (I had to do something similar to get money after a massive leak happened two days after I moved into my place. The sellers paid about 2k to cover the damages.)

What people are commenting on are the defense strategy that the Sony legal team is using. You're calling them crimes, but this is not a criminal case, it's a civil one. There's a very distict difference between the two, as I'm sure you're aware.

Also, if you can't comment or discuss this subject without throwing insults, you'll be removed from the discussion entirely.

Edit - Adiuvo snuck in before me. Stupid slow iPhone typing.

Well with the GeoHot case they want to claim that he has a PSN account, which is fair, but at first they were saying he was Geo1Hotz with no proof other than the names are similar, then they claim he is blickmaniac with the proof that the serial numbers matched GeoHotz and the same username posted a thread about a jailbroken iPhone, which is logical, except they left out; that it was a previously used console, the IP address wasn't even near New Jersey, and the jailbroken iPhone thread was about where to buy a jailbroken iPhone.

The 117-main.pdf is a pretty good read on the type of stuff SCEA is trying to pull a fast one for, and this is just for jurisdiction. I can't wait to see what happens when the case actually begins.

Every company has some dirt. I just hope Sony does some better crap before doing more stupid stuff like shutting down the wrong people. Really, the way they are going, the number of hackers trying to tinker the PSN/PS3 in more and more consumer damaging ways is just getting smaller, cause it's just going to get tougher to break through the security.